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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s All About the Orphans</title>
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		<title>By: bamboolabcode</title>
		<link>http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/02/23/its-all-about-the-orphans/comment-page-1/#comment-1319</link>
		<dc:creator>bamboolabcode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this information.</p>
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		<title>By: Open Content Alliance (OCA) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; At End of Act II: Are we Played for Fools OR Building a Enlightened Digital World?</title>
		<link>http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/02/23/its-all-about-the-orphans/comment-page-1/#comment-1073</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Content Alliance (OCA) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; At End of Act II: Are we Played for Fools OR Building a Enlightened Digital World?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] grand and dastardly scheme was to construct an organization to control/monetize the Orphans *&#8211; might they get away with it?  It seems they might&#8211; in fact everyone seems to be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] grand and dastardly scheme was to construct an organization to control/monetize the Orphans *&#8211; might they get away with it?  It seems they might&#8211; in fact everyone seems to be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Academitron&#187; Blog Archive &#187; The deal with the Google Book Search settlement</title>
		<link>http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/02/23/its-all-about-the-orphans/comment-page-1/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>Academitron&#187; Blog Archive &#187; The deal with the Google Book Search settlement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there&#8217;s the class that everyone is concerned about: books that are out of print but still under copyright. People often call these &#8220;orphan [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] there&#8217;s the class that everyone is concerned about: books that are out of print but still under copyright. People often call these &#8220;orphan [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CG</title>
		<link>http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/02/23/its-all-about-the-orphans/comment-page-1/#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>CG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you or anyone reading this blog is an eligible class member, you have until May 9th to file an objection to the settlement.  Objection rules are spelled out in the settlement notice at www.googlebooksettlement.com.   

Do not underestimate the power of an objection.  If enough class members object, clearly stating reasonable arguments for how the settlement should be modified, the Judge and the Attorneys will pay attention.  Trust me, every objection in a class action is read and considered carefully by all parties involved.  All you need to do is a write a letter - no attorneys need be involved.

Many class action settlement agreements are taken back to the drawing board by objecting class members, and this settlement is no different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you or anyone reading this blog is an eligible class member, you have until May 9th to file an objection to the settlement.  Objection rules are spelled out in the settlement notice at <a href="http://www.googlebooksettlement.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.googlebooksettlement.com</a>.   </p>
<p>Do not underestimate the power of an objection.  If enough class members object, clearly stating reasonable arguments for how the settlement should be modified, the Judge and the Attorneys will pay attention.  Trust me, every objection in a class action is read and considered carefully by all parties involved.  All you need to do is a write a letter - no attorneys need be involved.</p>
<p>Many class action settlement agreements are taken back to the drawing board by objecting class members, and this settlement is no different.</p>
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		<title>By: Econs.net Blog &#187; Hyperlinks Subvert Hierarchy</title>
		<link>http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/02/23/its-all-about-the-orphans/comment-page-1/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator>Econs.net Blog &#187; Hyperlinks Subvert Hierarchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] while we are being profiled, pieces of our culture are being locked up via anti-competitive agreements. Richard Sarnoff, the chairman of the Association of American [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] while we are being profiled, pieces of our culture are being locked up via anti-competitive agreements. Richard Sarnoff, the chairman of the Association of American [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hyperlinks Subvert Hierarchy : india sem</title>
		<link>http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/02/23/its-all-about-the-orphans/comment-page-1/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>Hyperlinks Subvert Hierarchy : india sem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 05:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] while we are being profiled, pieces of our culture are being locked up via anti-competitive agreements. Richard Sarnoff, the chairman of the Association of American [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] while we are being profiled, pieces of our culture are being locked up via anti-competitive agreements. Richard Sarnoff, the chairman of the Association of American [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Immateriblog.de - Matthias Spielkamp über Immaterialgüter in der digitalen Welt</title>
		<link>http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/02/23/its-all-about-the-orphans/comment-page-1/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>Immateriblog.de - Matthias Spielkamp über Immaterialgüter in der digitalen Welt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Urheberrechtsaktivisten USA, hat im Blog der von ihm mitgegründeten Open Content Alliance eine Einschätzung des Google Settlements veröffentlicht. Sie ist kurz, erschreckend, mit Sicherheit richtig und [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Urheberrechtsaktivisten USA, hat im Blog der von ihm mitgegründeten Open Content Alliance eine Einschätzung des Google Settlements veröffentlicht. Sie ist kurz, erschreckend, mit Sicherheit richtig und [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Seeing the picture &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thomas Lord &#38; Tim O&#8217;Reilly on Google Book Settlement</title>
		<link>http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/02/23/its-all-about-the-orphans/comment-page-1/#comment-379</link>
		<dc:creator>Seeing the picture &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thomas Lord &#38; Tim O&#8217;Reilly on Google Book Settlement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comments by Thomas Lord and Tim O&#8217;Reilly. I&#8217;m excerpting this interchange here. About Kahle&#8217;s posting, Stone says that he &#8220;focused on the plight of &#8216;orphan works&#8217; - that vast number [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] comments by Thomas Lord and Tim O&#8217;Reilly. I&#8217;m excerpting this interchange here. About Kahle&#8217;s posting, Stone says that he &#8220;focused on the plight of &#8216;orphan works&#8217; - that vast number [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brewster Kahle on the Google Book Settlement</title>
		<link>http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/02/23/its-all-about-the-orphans/comment-page-1/#comment-368</link>
		<dc:creator>Brewster Kahle on the Google Book Settlement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of these cultural works going into the public domain, they&#8217;ve instead gone into Google. Says Kahle: As that legislation has been wending its way through the Capitol Hill meat grinder, it turns out [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of these cultural works going into the public domain, they&#8217;ve instead gone into Google. Says Kahle: As that legislation has been wending its way through the Capitol Hill meat grinder, it turns out [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ResourceShelf &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Brewster Kahle: It’s All About the Orphans</title>
		<link>http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/02/23/its-all-about-the-orphans/comment-page-1/#comment-360</link>
		<dc:creator>ResourceShelf &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Brewster Kahle: It’s All About the Orphans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From the Blog Post: The Internet Archive first used the term “orphan” to describe books that are no longer commercially viable, (”out of print”); still in copyright; and whose ownership is either impossible or extremely difficult to determine. In 2004 Larry Lessig, Rick Prelinger, and I brought a suit to make it easier for orphans to enter the public domain (Kahle vs. Gonzales). As that case was proceeding, the Copyright Office held hearings and issued a report, which led to proposed orphan works legislation in both the House and Senate. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From the Blog Post: The Internet Archive first used the term “orphan” to describe books that are no longer commercially viable, (”out of print”); still in copyright; and whose ownership is either impossible or extremely difficult to determine. In 2004 Larry Lessig, Rick Prelinger, and I brought a suit to make it easier for orphans to enter the public domain (Kahle vs. Gonzales). As that case was proceeding, the Copyright Office held hearings and issued a report, which led to proposed orphan works legislation in both the House and Senate. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Frances Grimble</title>
		<link>http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/02/23/its-all-about-the-orphans/comment-page-1/#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>Frances Grimble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the settlement includes _every author and publisher of every book published before January 1, 2009, in every country that signed the Berne Convention. We're hardly talking about Google only exploiting those poor--but highly profitable--"orphans."  Although Google has not publicly released a list of books scanned (Google Book Search is not the same thing), apparently they scanned plenty of in-print books by living and identifiable authors. The Settlement also gives Google the right to sieze control of copyrighted books (whose rights owners do not opt out of the entire Settlement) as soon as Google's book registry--not the publisher or author--declares them out of print for one year.  Print-on-demand books can be declared out of print.

This is a straight grab that enriches no one but Google and the Author's Guild. Re the latter, they will be running a database/registry that the rights owners will have to pay to be included in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the settlement includes _every author and publisher of every book published before January 1, 2009, in every country that signed the Berne Convention. We&#8217;re hardly talking about Google only exploiting those poor&#8211;but highly profitable&#8211;&#8221;orphans.&#8221;  Although Google has not publicly released a list of books scanned (Google Book Search is not the same thing), apparently they scanned plenty of in-print books by living and identifiable authors. The Settlement also gives Google the right to sieze control of copyrighted books (whose rights owners do not opt out of the entire Settlement) as soon as Google&#8217;s book registry&#8211;not the publisher or author&#8211;declares them out of print for one year.  Print-on-demand books can be declared out of print.</p>
<p>This is a straight grab that enriches no one but Google and the Author&#8217;s Guild. Re the latter, they will be running a database/registry that the rights owners will have to pay to be included in.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Book Settlement Link Dump Awesomeness at pureinformation.org</title>
		<link>http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/02/23/its-all-about-the-orphans/comment-page-1/#comment-357</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Book Settlement Link Dump Awesomeness at pureinformation.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Open Content Alliance: It&#8217;s All About the Orphans [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Google Granted Dangerous Monopoly, DMR Requirements in Settlement with AAP at Nick Dynice</title>
		<link>http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/02/23/its-all-about-the-orphans/comment-page-1/#comment-353</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Granted Dangerous Monopoly, DMR Requirements in Settlement with AAP at Nick Dynice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google will receive exclusive right to profit from orphaned works. This would seem to go against Google&#8217;s own motto: Do no evil. Google themselves should understand that creating an exclusive right for work that should either be entered into the public domain or to not allow competing services such as the defunct Microsoft book scanning program does not jibe with their own ethical compass. Google seeks only to win by meritocracy. Google search points to the better source, and most if the time it is not Google&#8217;s own content. Google wants competition. It should want to allow it to find the best interpretation or organization of orphaned works. For this reason, I could not imagine it sending DMCA nastygrama to sites that republish these works. Google would want to open the orphaned works to the general public and to any developer so that they may mine even more public value from it. There is now a Books and Interest Registry for copyright holders and publishers of any book to register their works so, they too can get a cut of Google profits on sales to orphaned book access. Now, anyone can receive this welfare, just write a book. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google will receive exclusive right to profit from orphaned works. This would seem to go against Google&#8217;s own motto: Do no evil. Google themselves should understand that creating an exclusive right for work that should either be entered into the public domain or to not allow competing services such as the defunct Microsoft book scanning program does not jibe with their own ethical compass. Google seeks only to win by meritocracy. Google search points to the better source, and most if the time it is not Google&#8217;s own content. Google wants competition. It should want to allow it to find the best interpretation or organization of orphaned works. For this reason, I could not imagine it sending DMCA nastygrama to sites that republish these works. Google would want to open the orphaned works to the general public and to any developer so that they may mine even more public value from it. There is now a Books and Interest Registry for copyright holders and publishers of any book to register their works so, they too can get a cut of Google profits on sales to orphaned book access. Now, anyone can receive this welfare, just write a book. [...]</p>
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